“Is that with the discount?”

How effective has haggling been for Vox Machina? This list consists of money saved by any member of the party, either by haggling or a pre-arranged discount. Vex is definitely the lead haggler, but as Vax said, “We all hear your voice in our heads.” In Travis’s words: “Oh God, here we go.”

Update: Due to requests that we include ALL haggling (i.e., losses brought about by Grog and overpaying for Bloodthistle Wine), we have added haggling losses, as well as gains. We also realized we forgot Vox Machina shaking down the Church of Bahamut, so that has also been added. (How we forgot to include Holy Man Scanlan, we have no idea, since it’s one of our favorite moments in the entire show.)

Total amount saved/earned: 12696 gold
Total amount lost: 2600 gold (Details at end.)
Amount saved by Vex’s direct influence: 12145 gold
Final balance: 10096 gold

01 Arrival at Kraghammer

  • 75. Rooms (0:28:31) 175 to 100
  • -300. Vial of dragon’s blood for Bloodthistle Wine (0:47:16) 500 to 800

02 Into the Greyspine Mines

  • 0. Unable to talk down the price at the Value of Valor (0:57:27).

14 Shopping and Shipping

So… the math here is a little all over the place. We do know that VM gets a 10% discount, but between the haggling and acceptance and rejection of various items, it’s difficult to say what items were actually added to the pile, and what discounts were included.

  • 900. 3 superior healing potions (2:11:34) 4500 to 4050 to 3600
  • 450. 6 greater healing potions (2:14:07) 3000 to 2700 to 2550
  • 200. 2 Petrification removal potions (2:16:54) 1500 to 1350 to 1300
  • 450. Ring of Evasion (2:20:18) 4500 to 4050
  • 500. Belt of Dwarven Kind (2:21:04) 5000 to 4500
  • 0. Gilmore’s Glorious Color Sticks (2:22:52) 5 gold
  • 650. Ring of Protection +2 (2:24:14) 6500 to 5850
  • 150. Manual of Quickness of Action (2:26:08) 1500 to 1350
  • 180. Hat of Disguise (2:26:54) 1800 to 1620 (unstated)
  • 750. Cold Snap Leather Armor (2:27:17) 7500 to 6750
  • 450. Displacer Cloak (2:27:57) 4500 to 4050
  • 55. Pearl of Power (2:28:36) 550 to 495
  • 780. Dagger of Life Stealing (2:35:57) 7800 to 7020
  • 850. Frostbrand Shortsword (2:35:57) 8500 to 7650
  • 975. Accidental Discount: 50790 to stated 49815.
  • 615. Discount with blue dragon scales (11000 gold) and platinum (16200 gold), 49815 to 49200 (22000 final cost + 27200 trade cost)

Total saved at Gilmore’s: 7955 (57155 to 49200)

15 Skyward

  • 0. Scanlan’s scrying potion (0:25:58) 300 for a ruby (worth about 300)
  • 50. Bulette armor for Trinket (0:39:55) 500 to 450.

15 Enter Vasselheim

3000. Holy man Scanlan talks about his “charity work” (1:13:46) 3000 from 0

18 Trial of the Take Part 1

  • 50. Renting horses (1:04:50) 100 to 50 (paid by Lyra)

22 AraMente to Pyrah

  • -2300. Dragon parts for a single potion (1:06:48) 6000 to 8300.
  • 200. Warhorse for Grog (1:50:00) 400 to 200.

23 THE REMATCH

  • 26. Literal hog’s head of black powder (2:10:56) 426 to 400.
  • 50. Iron Ingots (2:16:10) 400 to 350.

24 The Feast

  • 125. Scanlan gets a potion identified “on the house” (1:03:25) 125 to 0. (Price of arcane identification explained in ep27, 2:17:05).
  • 300. 10% “Friend discount” on Vax’s daggers for Kainan (1:12:40) 1500 to 1200.

27 The Path to Whitestone

Surprisingly, Vex was absent for most of the shopping in Emon. There was almost no price negotiation the entire episode, with one exception in Westruun:

  • 865. Buying horses, negotiated to 210 (2:48:50) Initial value unstated, but estimated at 1075.

*Now, let’s really explore the negative. We explained costs of dragon parts in our article on Grog’s “bargaining skills”. We know that Vox Machina overpaid Balgus by 300, and we know that Grog gave away 8300 worth of gold for a potion labeled at 6000 (2300 difference).

However, let’s allow things to get REALLY bad here. Let’s say that Grog chose to buy from Gilmore’s instead. A reasonable price for A Potion of Stone Giant’s Strength is 2000. With the discount, VM pays 1800. 8300-1800=6500 gold. Shoulda coulda woulda.