Raishan Fact-Check

Welcome to Chroma Decision 2016! In the spirit of the political year, the Crit Role Stats team has found it fitting to analyze the statements presented by Raishan and put them under the microscope, to the best of our ability.

Regards to Politifact for the, uh, inspiration! Also, American critters, go register to vote, if you haven’t already; today’s the deadline for many of you!

  • “I am a being that rides the line between what’s true and what’s false…” Yep. Green dragons lie. A lot. There’s a reason her title is the Diseased Deceiver.
  • “I’m very good at avoiding the sight of those who would sense me, if I wish not to be seen.” Vex didn’t sense her when she was standing right next to her, so that’s true.
  • “My home is south of here, in the jungles of the Raifen Mist Peninsula, along the southern side of the Stormcrest.” We previously heard that there was a dragon living in the mountains near Syngorn (Allura, Ep 57, 3:08:42). The southern side of the Stormcrest is definitely close to Syngorn.
  • “Yes, I’ve seen [the siphon].” She’s had unrestricted access to Whitestone for roughly a week and showed a perfect image of it, so she’s not lying.
    • There has been some concern about how she could have seen it and maintained her True Polymorph. It’s entirely possible that she didn’t maintain her True Polymorph when she saw it, but made sure to go down by herself so she wouldn’t be caught as a dragon.
  • “[Thordak] was brought low by some assembled others, some fools from Emon.” Around the time Raishan claims to have fought Thordak and been promised a cure, Allura, Kima, Drake, and company sealed Thordak in the Fire Plane with the heartstone (Allura, Ep 40, 2:33:38; Ep 57, 3:14:20).
  • “I saw [Thordak’s] swelling, his pained form.” While we cannot independently confirm that Thordak is in pain from the heartstone, he has certainly grown since he was sealed in the Fire Plane with it (Allura, Ep 57, 3:19:01).
  • Thordak will most likely know very quickly if something happens to Vorugal. Vox Machina saw an obsidian stone similar to those in Brimscythe’s lair in Vorugal’s lair. Thordak would know that something had happened to Vorugal as soon as he “called” that stone and didn’t receive an answer.
  • “Thordak is using the crystal in his belly to slowly build a volcano beneath Emon.” This was confirmed by Allura using a scrying spell on Emon. (Ep 57, 3:17:00)
  • “[Vorugal] enjoys the hunt, enjoys the challenge.” This is directly in line with what the Ravinites told Vox Machina during their visit to Wildmount.
  • “If I wanted each of you dead, I would be chewing on your bones right now.” We’d have to agree. Raishan was hiding as Seeker Asum for a week before Vox Machina discovered her, and they were vulnerable several times during that week. She could have easily dealt with them a number of times, including during Vorugal’s flyby, when she did not take any action that would reveal Whitestone’s location.
  • “We both have much to gain [from an alliance].” Absolutely, assuming both Vox Machina and Raishan are willing to honestly work together. Both want Thordak dead. Raishan has information and a lot of power; Vox Machina brings even more power, possibly enough to kill Thordak. Neither party, however, seems likely to trust the other, which makes the path tricky.
  • “You informed me of your entire journey!” Yep. Raishan knows about the Vestiges, Syngorn, the Fort Daxio army, and pretty much every other potential ally Vox Machina’s talked to in the last two months, courtesy of Vox Machina themselves. (Ep 64, 0:59:55)
  • “I can change my form into a number of creatures and be of assistance in that way. I have a series of arcane talents that I can bring to the battlefield as well.” This is in line with both what we know of ancient dragons and what Allura and Cerkonos said in the past (Ep 47, 0:47:30; Ep 57, 3:08:42)
  • The tale of the fight with Thordak. We have heard nothing of a fight between two ancient dragons from Allura or those that were around at the time, but that’s not to say it didn’t happen. Allura confirms that Thordak was razing the Verdant Expanse around the time Raishan claims she fought him, and the Verdant Expanse is close enough to Raishan’s lair for her to claim the area. One dragon encroaching on another’s territory is something that would certainly trigger a violent reaction.
  • “I did everything!” Raishan certainly has the capability to form the Conclave, figure out how to corrupt the binding stone, and break Thordak out of the Fire Plane. However, we only know for certain that she did that last bit (Cerkonos, Ep 47 0:47:30). It also seems unlikely that Thordak would be able to do the first two while locked away in the Fire Plane, barring a trip to the City of Brass.
  • “I want [Thordak] dead!” Chromatic dragons hate other colors, so even if what Raishan told us of her history is false, it’s probably true that she wants Thordak dead, maybe even as much as the twins. Whether she’s telling the truth or not about allying herself with Vox Machina to do it is another story.
  • “I have not the power to take [Thordak] myself.” While we don’t have exact ages for either dragon, various accounts seem to corroborate that Thordak is older than Raishan, and we do know for certain that he is much larger. Since size tends to correlate with power (and age) when it comes to dragons, this might actually be true. However, Raishan is known to have significant spellcasting abilities; abilities that Thordak, by all accounts, does not share. We don’t know if this might make up for the difference in size or age. She’s also apparently been beaten once already, and if what she’s told us about the effect of the heartstone on Thordak is true, she probably can’t beat him herself.
  • “[Thordak] requires us to continuously check in.” Given the tyrannical nature of red dragons (Allura, Ep 57 3:10:45), this seems likely.
  • “[Thordak] was very perturbed at the death of one black dragon which you slayed. As such, he sent a rather large assortment of his and Vorugal’s wyvern army to sweep the entire middle eastern sides of Tal’Dorei in search of… you, I presume.” The RAW for scrying does not indicate that the target of a scrying spell can sense the location of the observer, so it’s not likely that Gilmore’s scrying attempt alerted Vorugal to Whitestone’s location. Given the timing of the flyby, it is definitely possible that Thordak sent Vorugal with a wyvern army to do a full sweep for Vox Machina.
  • “Thordak wants everything.” Red dragons are incredibly greedy, so, this seems likely.
  • “Vorugal is a beast, simple of mind, eager to kill, eat, sleep.” While Raishan’s account isn’t particularly flattering to her fellow ancient dragon, it’s in line with what we’ve heard of white dragons in general.
  • “[Vorgual] is, of the entire Conclave, the closest Thordak has to a lapdog.” Vorugal flew an awfully long way to hunt for Vox Machina after Umbrasyl’s death if he wasn’t serious about serving Thordak. They hadn’t yet been to Wildmount, so he had no reason to think they were coming after him. Yet.
  • “If I were to utilize my full potential, which would be required to fell Vorugal, as idiotic as the creature is, it’s still a very dangerous and cunning foe.” Raishan was the smallest of the Conclave, thus presumably the youngest and least physically powerful. It’s entirely possible she’d need to use her significant spellcasting abilities to make up for this disadvantage in size.
  • Asum, Brotorus, Goldhand, and the Clasp have a plan to “strike at the Cinder King.” Last we heard, Tofor Brotorus was still alive and looking for survivors along with Seeker Asum. Bram Goldhand, however, perished in the initial attack on Emon (Gilmore, Ep 41, 2:33:00). While it is possible that Goldhand was resurrected by a surviving cleric, we’re inclined to go with the latest confirmed information from Gilmore. Operating under the assumption that Asum and Tofor are still alive, it is probably true that they have a plan for taking down Thordak, and the Clasp is their best resource for doing so.
  • UPDATE: A tweet from Matt has confirmed that Bram Goldhand died in the initial attack on Emon, and his inclusion here is a hole in Raishan’s story.
  • “I did not slay a single one of [Keyleth’s] people.” Even if Raishan did not attack the Fire Ashari directly, she is certainly responsible for the destruction wrought by the opening of the portal into the Fire Plane and the subsequent release of Thordak, as Keyleth immediately pointed out.
  • “You have no idea what I’m capable of.” We’d have to agree with Percy here. Thanks to accounts found by Allura, and Cerkonos’ account of how the portal to the Fire Plane was torn open, they have some idea of what Raishan is capable of (Ep 47, 0:47:30; Ep 57, 3:08:42). There’s also the matter of witnessing her slaughter an entire square full of civilians during the attack on Emon (Ep 39, 3:37:26), and knowing she has an AC of 22 (Ep 39, 3:36:11). There might, however, still be a few tricks she’s managed to hide up her sleeve, so that saves this from being completely false.
  • “[Keyleth], your anger is misplaced.” Nope. We’d have to say Keyleth’s anger is right where it needs to be. Had Raishan left Thordak alone in the Fire Plane, Pyrah would never have been destroyed.
  • The disease, or Thordak’s apparent cure. The fact that Scanlan and Keyleth have heard of such a thing as a Soul Curse, Raishan’s apparent desperation, and that she does, in fact, appear to have some kind of sickness lends credence to the story. However, from what we’ve heard, Raishan is more than capable of generating an illusion to make it look like she is sick, and we have no independent confirmation of this disease. We also have no way of knowing if Thordak is telling the truth about a cure except for Raishan’s word and confidence. The demand for Raishan to talk to the corpse of Thordak, however, seems odd if this is not true.
  • “I have no interest in the shackles that bind [Thordak] to his insanity.” Raishan is referring here to the heartstone. It seems odd that Raishan would have no interest in such a powerful object, however if what she says about Thordak’s insanity is true, it is less so.
  • “[I’ve done] nothing [to your friends]. I have no interest in them.” Depends on if any of them looked at Seeker Asum too closely when he arrived in Whitestone, we think.
  • “It seemed his bindings, the power he was absorbing, was beginning to drive him mad.” “His narcissism grows to dangerous bounds.” This is not the first time Raishan has claimed that Thordak is crazy (Ep 64, 0:33:51). Without independent confirmation from a more reliable source, we cannot say if this is true or even possible. She also claims that she moved up the escape to Winter’s Crest because of this madness, which does fit into the timeline of events (Emon was attacked shortly after Winter’s Crest).
  • “Everywhere I’ve sought the information [on her disease] was destroyed by Thordak once we made the accord.” This ties in nicely with the narrative that Thordak is withholding information on Raishan’s disease from her, but without more information, we cannot know for certain.
  • “As far as [Thordak] knows, I’m currently somewhere on the outskirts of Westruun, attempting to forge some sort of vengeance for what happened to Umbrasyl.” “Both the Cinder King and the Frigid Doom are unaware that there is any mounting danger.” We’d have to know if Raishan is actually working for Thordak to know if this is true or not, unless someone in Vox Machina manages to witness a conversation between the two without either party knowing.
  • “[Asum and the Clasp] will burn in the flames of their own righteousness.” Raishan claims here that Asum’s plan will not work because he, the Clasp, and Tofor don’t understand the nature of the enchantment on the heartstone. The reasoning seems likely, but she doesn’t elaborate on the plan, what exactly the nature of the enchantment is, or why it will fail, so we cannot confirm without more details of the plan and probably a conversation with Allura.